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‘Palestinianism’ remains a threat to Middle East peace: Andrew Fox and Casey Babb for Inside Policy Talks

It's been a historic week, but questions remain about the future of Hamas, and what it will take to deliver long-term security in the region.

October 16, 2025
in Middle East and North Africa, Podcasts, Israel-Hamas War, Casey Babb
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There’s rapid change happening in the Middle East.

In a ceremonial show of unity, world leaders headed to Egypt for an October 13 peace summit in support of United States President Donald Trump’s plan to end the war in Gaza.

All living hostages have been returned to Israel, though Jerusalem is still working to secure the release of some deceased hostages.

It’s been a historic week, but questions remain about the future of Hamas, and what it will take to deliver long-term security in the region.

To discuss what happens next, Andrew Fox joins Inside Policy Talks. Fox served 16 years in the British Army, completed three tours in Afghanistan, and further tours of Bosnia, Northern Ireland, and the Middle East. A prominent expert on the Israel-Hamas war, Fox was a senior lecturer at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He is currently an associate fellow at the Henry Jackson Society and an associate fellow at the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security.

On the podcast, he tells Casey Babb, who leads the Macdonald-Laurier Institute’s The Promised Land project, that it’s difficult to gauge what level of support Hamas retains in Gaza. However, he says the deeply rooted ideology of “Palestinianism” will remain a problem in any scenario.

“This idea of the ‘from the river to the sea’ – it’s not about having your independent Gaza Strip or your independent West Bank and a Palestinian polity,” says Fox. “It’s about getting rid of Israel and replacing it with this brand new country called Palestine that’s never existed before.”

“I would suggest that’s got a near 100 per cent approval rating across the Palestinian territories.”

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